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>> they will be running at some point. >> unbelievable. >> you and i will be working for them. don't go away, it's been a great day. stick around. >> thanks. good morning, 16 days to go, hi, everyone. thank you for joining us. i'm maria bartiromo. crunchtime for the candidates. donnell trump unveiling his plan for the first 100 days in office if he's elected. what is the campaign strategy moving forward in this first two weeks? hillary clinton's response to wikileaks by blaming the russians for trying to influence the outcome of the u.s. election. right now early voting is under way. 20 states what are we learning as we look ahead on "sunday morning futures."
good morning, donald trump choosing the setting to make his campaign's closing argument. calling it his contact with the american voter. the gop nominee vowing his administration would hit the ground running on a number of issues, including new trade deals, enforcing immigration laws and putting term limits on members of congress. >> americans will be voting for this 100-day plan to restore prosperity to our country, secure our communities and honesty to our government. this is my pledge to you. and if we follow these steps, we will, once more, have a government of, by and for the people. >> joining me right now to talk director for the republican national committee. also joining me here on set ed rollins is joining me right now. former campaign for the reagan/busch ticket in '84 and
good to see you both. thank you for joining us, gentlemen. sean, good to see you. thanks so much for being here. let me kick it off with the gettysburg speech yesterday. how would you characterize it? what did you think? >> it was a very detailed plan. you know exactly where donald trump stands on a variety of issues in terms of national security, foreign policy, tax policy. creating a true contrast with hillary clinton into this final key point before the election. if people want to know what the difference is between the hillary clinton administration versus donald trump, they got it yesterday. detailed on economic policy, on foreign policy, infrastructure, education. he enumerated exactly where he's going to take this country and the vision that he wants to lay out and give people that choice. the interesting thing, maria, there truly is a choice in this election. hillary clinton has been trying to paint donald trump as this risky choice because she has this trust problem with the american people. if you look at hillary clinton's record, she is the one with a
risky detailed record. whether it was libya or syria or a handling of classified information, it is her record that shows there truly is a choice. there is a risky choice that americans need to be concerned with when it comes to who is going to have trust of the american people, classified information and trust of our foreign policy. she has failed over and over again. she is truly that risky choice as we head into this final stretch. >> why is why, ed rollins, he came out with details in the so-called corruption that he sees and the fact that he came out with 28 specific things that he's going to do in that regard. >> this is the best speech he has given. obviously, got distracted by his attempts to go after the women who accused him of things. he needs to just not get distracted. stay right focused on this message and pick different places to argue the different points, but a good, comprehensive plan and my sense if he does nothing but talk about it for the next ten days, he'll be much better than he is today in the polls and certainly
has a shot of winning it. sean's the key here. sean is rn and his colleagues there have a very big role in this campaign and find voters getting into the polls and i think they'll do a superb job. >> what about that, even with two weeks to go before this election, you don't have the high-profile names with the rnc out there like paul ryan. you know and people are wondering if, in fact, this lack of unity actually hurts trump. >> well, obviously, as we continue to go into the final 16 days we need more republicans and more democrats. we assembled the most complicated ground game that anybody has ever seen. we are ahead of where we were in florida and ahead in places compared to four years ago in iowa. in ohio and nevada. we are bringing people home. we are getting them out early to vote and getting the absentee ballots in people's hands and making sure they return them. we have our work cut out for us.
we will keep working 24 hours a day to make sure we put that closing argument in front of people. that comprehensive list of issues that donald trump laid out yesterday. we need to make sure that contrast is well known and that will propel us to victory on november 8th. >> when you look at thele electoral map, is it possible for him to win with the votes you're expecting? >> absolutely. the american people are ready for change. and i think that hillary clinton clearly epitomizes the status quo in the establishment and her and tim kaine probably have more time in washington than any candidate in recent history. so, people are ready for change, they can. you look at states like ohio, florida, nevada, new hampshire. they're all in play. iowa. we are continuing to see a path and a lean forward in the last few days where all the polls are starting to shift back in donald trump's favor because people, i
think, are finally ready for change and they're going to get out there and vote. >> they're looking at this as a movement, not necessarily just for the man. >> it is a movement. what he has to talk about repeatedly is together we will change washington. together i need a senate and i need house members and i need a whole team here and, obviously, i'm willing taput ing to put me line. >> when you look at the hillary clinton campaign right now, sean, almost like they're exp t expecting that she won this already. let's go through some of those races. what are you looking at closest? which races do you think are most important for the gop to keep, whether it's the house or senate? >> i think we are going to do fine in the house. we have a 30-seat majority there. i think we'll maintain that. paul ryan will be speaker, again, in the senate. look, we've got a four-seat majority there and a lot of close races. but the difference between this cycle and past cycles is that
every one of these individuals went in two, three, four years ago in some cases and has really been focused on their state and building a world class campaign so whether it's pat toomey in pennsylvania or rob portman in ohio and joe heck in nevada, kelly ayotte in new hampshire. every single one of them, sure, they have a tough race. they have gone out and talked about issues that are important to their state for a world class campaign together and raising appropriate amount of money and i think in every one of them, you start looking that trend lines and they're going to win. >> so many of them we know that they're not out there campaigning for donald trump. is that the smart move? >> the key thing at this point in time is there are going to be trump voters out there that traditionally wouldn't vote republican. and we've got to convince them that the team, again, is what's important. you have to make sure whoever you're turning on as trump voters that they're going to vote down the ticket, too. >> what is resonating more? >> one of the things that makes this cycle really unique is that almost every single senate state
is also a battleground state. so, whether it's iowa, new hampshire, florida, ohio, nevada, pennsylvania, wisconsin. they are all senate states and battleground states. when we go in, there is this unity of effort that has never been seen before. i know a lot of times the main stream media likes to talk about this unity in the republican party, but ed's absolutely right. when you turn a voter to go vote early absentee or get them out on oelection day, you're turning that voter to vote for the entire ticket and it's not always 100%. the reality is that whether you're running for the senate or president, you get that we need every single republican and right leaning independent and even soft democrats to come out and vote for our entire ticket. that's what we're focused on. because the uniqueness of this cycle is you have all the senate battleground states being presidential battleground states, it makes a unity of effort and efficiency like nothing we've ever seen before. >> the voter turnout in terms of
enthusiasm seems to be on the republican side. >> it does, absolutely. part of the problem is that there is very little ximpt for the status quo with hillary clinton. she's been around for 30 years and this major trust issue. even if you're a solid democrat, you're not happy about voting for hillary clinton. >> we're going to talk about the wikileaks coming up because in terms of the gettysburg speech yesterday, do you think it's too little too late? do you think it resonated? i think it was probably his best speech yet. >> he has to drive it, one speech doesn't do it. he has six, seven days of big speeches ahead. by next weekend you have to really turn this thing around. obviously, polls will come out this week. probably close the race somewhat, but he has to basically make the final sale. he's a great salesman and marketer and he has to go market himself and his vision for the country. >> the polls after the debate are going to be very important. thank you so much.
we will talk to you soon, gentlemen. they were big for bernie sanders but who are millennial voters siding with now? what is happening in the swing state of colorado. john hickenlooper is with us. you can follow me on twitter, let us know what you want to see orn the show and what you'd like to hear from governor hickenlooper next on qua"sunday morning futures."
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joining me is colorado governor john hickenlooper, hillary clinton supporter. good to see you, governor. thank you for joining us. does that poll ring true to you? what are you seeing in colorado in terms of that young generation? >> i think it does ring true. the last eight or ten years we have been one of the top millennials and more mission driven in their lives and they support that selflessness. i think with hillary and donald trump a pretty stark contrast there in terms of ego versus service. >> you know, i mean, obviously, they want jobs. they want a strong economy, but the skeptics of hillary clinton continue to say that her economic plan does not show a road to economic growth. do you see that road to economic growth because when you look at what trump is doing, lowering taxes, rolling back regulations. you can see a path to moving the
needle on economic growth. hillary clinton wanting to raise wages, raise taxes. where is the path to economic growth? >> no, i see hillary with a strong path to economic growth. she's already got plans and laid out how to cut red tape in bureaucracy. she talked to entrepreneurs all over the country in terms of how to help them start up, not only start up and grow their businesses, but i think her focus is with small businesses and how do you get more small businesses going and maybe she's -- i mean the large banks are not a primary focus of her. >> right. well, the small business, though, are going to see their taxes go up because if you're raising taxes on the highest earners. that is going to mean higher taxes for small business again, i get to the same place knowing they're going to have to pay higher minimum wage and higher taxes. >> i'd argue against that. i think that is the -- ip understand what you're saying but if you get all these businesses starting and growing, this is what we see in colorado. our unemployment is down and
just job creation. at that level when you're starting all those businesses, what really matters is red tape and access to capital. those are two things she's really working on getting rid of. getting rid of the red tape and making sure you have more access to capital. >> the red tape as it relates to red care. very good op-ed in the journal yesterday about the post-obama care preview in colorado. premiums across the state expected to rise 20.4% on average next year. some have concluded that the central is more central planners with a doubling down on obama care. colorado care. you oppose this. >> well, i opposed it. a lot of us in colorado opposed it. i think, obviously, for the last 30 years health care costs have continued to rise every year. almost every year in double digits and i think now is the time not to throw out everything and start all over again. we have to figure out what the solution is, again. and i think having a single payer system and however
idealistic and well intentioned is not the solution of this point. last poll i saw was down 75 to 25. i think it will lose significantly in the polls. >> vermont which, of course, abandoned the idea back in 2014. the governor there basically, a deal democrat, by the way, dumped his campaign issue once he realized it would require a payroll tax and an individual levee as high as 9.5%. isn't that what hillary clinton wants to do? she wants to go to a single payer system. >> no, i don't think so. i think she wants to have a public option. i think if you look at it, part of the problem we're having is people with pre-existing conditions can get -- almost everyone agrees that is a good idea. a lot of people who have serious, medical conditions are opting out and not paying their -- not joining on paying for health care until all of a sudden they have a medical emergency and then they sign up and they have to be covered and they get their medical treatment and then they go off, again.
we have to figure out how to address that. >> how do you address it, governor? what would you like to see given what we are looking at right now in terms of this proposal to mimic obama care with colorado care? >> i think, obviously, there has to be some people that are cycling on and off. there has to be some consequence. otherwise they're going to keep doing it. as i said, gaming the system. so, perhaps some long delay. we have to feel some risk or some, you know, some consequence if they continue this behavior that, you know, really, it's cheating the rest of us. >> governor a lot of speculation that should hillary clinton become our next president, you will have a role in her administration. are you expecting to have a role in hillary clinton's administration? >> i'm going to give her all the best i can from colorado. i do think that she is so well prepared. i spent a fair amount of time with her in june and july. i never met anyone who knows policy at more depth and knows more detail than she does.
i think, you know, we might disagree. i think she might be a great president. >> what role would you have? >> i think i'll stay as governor of colorado. part of what she needs is to have strong support all over the country and have a chance to bring republicans and democrats together. we do that pretty well in colorado. i think we can be a great model for her. >> do you see the kind of enthusiasm, i know you said millennials are all in for hillary, but are they going to come out and vote? >> that's always a question with young people. it's been back when i was a baby boomer as a kid, they said the same thing about us. i think they will come out and vote and i think it's been a little, you know, their enthusiasm wasn't there a couple months ago. but now everywhere i go i see more young people and i see more energy. the more they're fired up. so, i think they are going to vote. >> we'll leave it there and be watching. governor, always a pleasure to speak with you. thanks so much. >> thanks, maria. voters are headed to the polls in more than 20 states early voting is under way.
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welcome back. early voting under way in some key swing states who want to know what's going on at this hour. around 5 million people have already cast their votes, including thousands in nevada where early voting started yesterday. meanwhile, analysts say they see a trend favoring hillary clinton in florida. donald trump appears to be doing
well in ohio and iowa. byron york is chief correspondent and a fox news contributor. byron, good to see you. >> good morning, maria. >> what is your take away from these swing states in early voting so far? >> it is bad news for trump in florida, no doubt about that. good news for him in iowa but we knew iowa seemed to be going pretty well for him. ohio very close. the deal is you mentioned 5 million people have voted early so far. in the end, by election day, more than 40 million people are expected to have voted. that's out of the 125, 130 million total who will vote. so, this is a huge thing. and the thing to remember is democrats have always made a much bigger deal of early voting. i remember being at an obama rally in ohio about a week before the election in 2012. everybody had voted already there. and i ran into a woman who told me, said, my phone is ringing all the time. i can't go to the grocery store without the campaign people
coming. i kept saying, have you voted yet? do you need help getting to the polls? they're very, very extensive democratic ground game that far outstrips the republican ground game in early voting. >> it's hard to really analyze early voting and get a true trend because there's so much more to learn. let me ask you this, we're waiting on polls post the third debate. do you think we'll see a big change in the polls after that final debate where chris wallace did such a great job? >> we have a brand-new poll from "the washington post" that shows hillary clinton up by 12. a couple weeks ago they had one with her up by four. now, the new one may be an o, t 12 seems kind of big, but it did show that people had an enormously negative eaction one to trump's treatment of women and two to his refusal to say that he would accept the results of the election. that he would wait until the time to tell us. so, we haven't seen -- i mean, the debate was just wednesday
night and it's sunday morning and you take a few more days to figure out exactly what the effect was. but the early signs don't look good for trump. >> so, what happens in these next 16 days? lay it out for us in terms of how the twists and turns may change things. do you think he sticks to that gettysburg speech and just continues to enforce the things that he feels he's going to do for this country in the first 100 days? >> that's what his advisors and all republican politicos hope he does. a lot of the things he would do in his first 100 days in office i think really made a lot of republicans feel good. they feel that he should have been empathizing this for a long time already. remember, the long preembolto that gettysburg speech yesterday was talking about how all the women who accused him are lying and the news media are so bias
against him. those are kind of the two trumps in this race. the one sort of, you know, airing his grudges and the other outlining a list of policies that if really pursued would probably be popular with the voters. so, my guess is like we have seen all the way in this campaign, we'll see a mix of those two things. >> what about the wikileaks dump. is this resonating with voters, the fact that now we know that a senior staffer at the state department tried to do a quid pro quo with the fbi to get them to change the classification of an e-mail. we know that there was pay to play going on now with morocco, government officials, as well. is it resonating? >> well, it is in the sense that it is continually eroding hillary clinton's honesty or trustworthness. her belief that she has told the truth about the e-mails or about anything else for that matter. so, those numbers have eroded. it doesn't seem to have affected her standing in the polls.
one thing we should say is we don't know what we don't know. we don't know what will happen in the next 16 days. some huge wikileaks revelation and the democrats will drop on trump? that kind of stuff is unknown, but, clearly, clinton believes right now that she can kind of cruise to the election. we're seeing stories about how she's thinking about winning, making sure she wins the senate. down ballot races. she's thinking about the cabinet. she's doing, you know, measures the stuff and she's not campaigning that much. she's not spending that much time on the actual campaign stump. she thinks she's pretty much got it. >> too presumptuous? >> you never want to do that sort of thing because we never know what is going to happen. there is a scenario. there is a scenario for trump to win. remember 538 says 87% chance that hillary clinton will win. that's a 13% chance that donald trump will win and stranger
things have happened. so, yeah, it looks pretty presumptuous when you have reports of clinton basically planning her administration at this point. >> we'll talk more about that coming up. byron, good to see you. hillary clinton is facing new allegations of pay to play involving the king of morocco. what is her response? we look ahead on sunday morning's futures th. stay with us. upgrade your phone system and learn how you could save at vonage.com/business
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go to myeyelove.com and feel the love. welcome back. hillary clinton grappling with new pay to play allegations after wikileaks produces more of the podesta e-mails. more hacked from her campaign account. clinton helped negotiate a $12 million foundation commitment from the king of morocco. here's what she had to say about it last night. >> i have nothing to say about wikileaks other than i think we should all be concerned about what the russians are trying to do to our election and using wikileaks very blatantly to try to influence the outcome of the election. i have no concerns about the first question whatsoever. >> joining me right now is judge michael mukasey former u.s.
attorney general and thank you for joining us. >> good to be here. >> do we have any evidence that russia is, in fact, behind all of this? >> i don't know what the evidence is. i know that many people have said they are. candidly that's secondary to what it is that is being disclosed. >> the contents of the e-mails. i want to get to an important e-mail between patrick kennedy. patrick kennedy who is a state department aide. e-mail from clinton aide and this is january 2015. the condition upon which the moroccans agreed to host the meeting was her participation. this was hillary's idea. our office approached the moroccans and they 100% believe they are doing this at her request. the king has committed approximately $12 million. first, let's address this moroccan e-mail. obviously, she's involved in money from the king of morocco to her husband's foundation, the clinton foundation. >> right. >> while she's a sitting
secretary of state. >> she left, she left the position in 2013, i believe. so, the question is whether she is actively involved that time that she was secretary of state. but that, that, of course, would be a crime. but it almost matters. the department of state had issued a report that was critical of morocco. said it was corrupt. said people were subject to arbitrary arrest. that is the department of state that she headed. >> okay. >> fast forward a short time. she is hitting up the king of mu rocky for $12 million to host a clinton global initiative conference in morocco that will enhance the prestige of the moroccan regime and going to make it seem like, hey, there's nothing wrong with morocco. why the former secretary of state herself is at a conference in morocco. it turned out that she didn't go, although bill clinton and chelsea clinton did go.
so, again, it cuts against the message of her own state department that this is a corrupt and arbitrary society. >> more evidence that she, okay, she's not in the office any more. but she is intimately involved in money from the king of morocco to her husband's foundation. then you go back to when she was secretary of state and the uranium deal with the russians. the russians want to buy 25% of the stockpile and for a long time they have wanted that and the state department pushed back, pushed back, pushed back and she allows it at the same time they're giving money to the clinton foundation. >> right. >> how is she going to explain this? if she won't explain it, she explains to russia with no explanation about the content. >> she's going to have to explain it only if she's pressed by people in the media. and if she's not pressed, she won't explain. you saw on camera a great example of what her explanation
is going to be. her explanation is going to be, explanation in quotes that this is from a polluted source. i think we should be more concerned with the source than the content and i'm not going to comment on the content. >> what is your take on the contents of this other e-mail between patrick kennedy and an fbi agent where basically it is clear that the under secretary of state to management patrick kennedy is asking for a quid pro quo. if you declassify this particular e-mail, we will allow fbi agents to go in foreign hot spots as you wanted to go. that, obviously, did not end up happening. but is it pretty obvious and straight forward that that was a request for a quid pro quo right there? >> the issue is less -- it is a request for quid pro quo than what was actually being done. which was obstructing an fbi investigation and possibly obstructing a congressional
investigation of benghazi. the underlying e-mail related to arrests in the benghazi investigation. and those, of course, tend to undercut the story that was being told about how this was all due to avideo. >> jim comey the head of the fbi who is at the oend of the day put martha stewart in jail for lying to the government. >> and appointed the prosecutor who went over libby when everybody knew that scooter libby wasn't the source of the leak. >> we know hillary clinton lied and, no problem, according to jim comey. >> no. very disappointing. for those who had high expectations of him. >> which is why you say it's up to the media and the people because it's not happening the way you would expect it to happen from our government structure. >> correct. it's not. the ultimate, the ultimate authority here is going to have to be the media and public. >> judge, good to see you. thank you so much. now, we want to get a look at what's coming up at the top of the hour media buzz.
>> we have chris wallace talking about his moderating role in the third debate and reveal something very interesting about how he repaired for fight night in las vegas. also look at the coverage of the fallout of that debate. donald trump's speech in gettysburg and a policy speech where he talked about the suing the women who accused him. that created plenty of headlines and more wikileaks stuff. coziness between certain journalists and the clinton campaign. >> thank you so much, howie, we'll be in there 20 minutes. 16 days left and we're headed into the home stretch. we'll break down on the race with our panel straight ahead. back on "sunday morning futures" in a moment.
in the first debate i set the table. in the second debate, i fired up the grill. and, tonight, i feast. >> chris, i'm going to start this debate in the quietest voice possible. in the past, i've been big and loud, but, tonight, i have a sweet little baby trump. >> that is good to hear. >> well, "snl" has had a field day with this election. the cast of "saturday night live" poking fun at the third and final presidential debate this weekend as the candidates get down to serious business. donald trump and hillary clinton campaigned, drawing up their final strategies to reach out to voters as we close in on two weeks until election day. ed rollins former campaign manager for the former reagan/busch ticket and steven
senior vice president of global strategy group and mary kissel editorial board member for "the wall street journal." let's talk about the gettysburg speech right here. that was the highlight of the weekend, mary. your reaction? >> trump is good when he focuses on policy. you saw in the third debate that's where he won over hillary clinton and some of those policies are terrific. school choice, cutting taxes, getting rid of obama care. some of it is terrible. the same that we heard from trump. but, again, trump always loses when it becomes about him and his ego. he goes off on these tangents about globalism and the establishment and clinton machine. that is time that he should be spending talking about hillary clinton and what life would be li like. >> which is why i can't believe, steven, that the race is where it is right now. if it were anyone else, a lot of these missteps that trump has
done would have taken him out and, yet, she so disliked. and that keeps haunting her. >> i think that is some of it. the thing that is remarkable about trump is that he may be the first candidate since 1940 or the third candidate since 1940 to not even get 40%, right. the only other two were george mcgovern and george bush who was in a real three-person race. the movement that really isn't one because he keeps hurting himself and only talking to his base, just like the gettysburg speech when he makes this whole speech and then goes out and starts attacking the media and saying he is going to sue his accusers. come is red meat for his supporters. 38% of supporters but not for any swing vote. >> he does try to communicate that it is a movement. when you see things like the project veratas tape and people
worried about voevobout voter f. >> he hasn't translated that to swing voters and suburban women and to independents. right. he's at a point where he is going to have a tough time getting to 40% at the moment. >> that's a good analysis. ed, what do you think? >> we'll have an election in two weeks to see which polls are right. right now some have a dead even race. obviously the abc post has a 12-point difference. i asusume a lot of post-debate polls that have her with a substantial lead. the critical thing for him not to lose the momentum. he had a good performance in the debate and a good speech yesterday. the inconsistencies is when he goes after the women and talks about suing them that are much better stories to the media. >> i would say what's been consistent about all these polls even when he was doing well, he has a hard time sort of breaking in the low 40s. so, it's very hard to see how he has something changing in the next two weeks how he gets from that into the sort of high 40s numbers that he needs. >> depends on the independents.
if the independents stay where they are, stay at 10%. obviously, makes it more difficult. if for some reason people decide it's a two-person race and let's break it out here. >> his problem has always been his temperament and the third debate did nothing for him on that matter and neither did the gettysburg address. voters want to be given a reason to vote for donald trump. and he also hasn't prosecuted the case against hillary clinton. you look at the guts of the fox poll that came out, clinton is beating him on all the major issues. issues she shouldn't even be close to him on. health care, terrorism, immigration, the economy. it's because when he talks about himself, he's not talking about his opponent and talking in a way that give the female voters to go for him. >> the most telling thing on that poll is that she is viewed as the change agent where that has been his great strength. >> he continued to make it a referendum on donald trump and he's done that to himself frankly. in a lot of ways, that has helped her. but she has kind of presented
herself particularly through the three debates and that's her. >> all she has to do is sit back and do nothing. she is not going to hold a lot of conferences and has not been on the campaign trail. he hadn't been campaigning with tim kaine and there is a reason for that. they know they're in a good position and just try to let donald blow himself up. again, 16 days to go, it's been a volatile race. the clinton campaign shifting its resources in a way that could pay major dividends on november 8th. what that strategy is. we're looking ahead on "sunday morning futures." we'll be right back. when you're close to the people you love, does psoriasis ever get in the way of a touching moment?
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with 16 days until america votes, the clinton campaign is shifting its resources to downed ballot races in the hopes of not only taking the white house but skipping the scales on capitol hill. mary, a funny thing happened about two weeks ago on wall street which i'm sure you saw in the markets. they all traded down because people were worried about a democratic sweep. they were worried about the president, the house and the senate and what that's going to mean for pharmaceutical stocks, for biotech stocks. we had a big selloff in the market. what are the implications if the dems take the senate? >> you could get a repeat of obama-pelosi in 2010.
it gave us all the policies in 2010 that led to the recession. they want singer payer health care. they want far left than we've had in many, many decades. they want more regulation. this is -- this would be a disaster for the economy, and it would have implications for our foreign policy, too, because it would weaken us here at home. no one is focusing on this, but they should. >> this is a really important point, because when you look, today beinlook at where our ecoc growth is. 1.4% is the last gdp. maybe when obama had both chambers in his corner, he should not have stuffed it down people's throat and instead focused on economic growth. >> there are six senate seats still in play. five are republican, one is the harry reid seat, and they're
neck and neck. and that's clearly what's going to be the margin of who controls the senate. and the likelihood of 51-49 or 50-50 is very, very high and the reality then is any senator is king. any senator can make the deal. the house, obviously, i think people concede to losing 10, maybe 15. that will be an emotional thing if nothing else, and it will take the margin away. it will be different in d.c. come next january, and republicans have to be smart and make sure they have a measure that matters. >> can you support what you're hearing from mary, from ed if the support goes down? >> it was essentially just about tearing down the president, right? that's worked for them in off-year election but it hasn't worked for them in presidential elections, and it looks like it's repeating themselves right now. democrats are going to pick up
at least two seats in the senate, and that said, there are a lot of competitive seats in arizona, north carolina, that could go either way. you could end up with a democratic senate but you'll end up with divided governments, in all likelihood. >> what's important to be watching in the next two weeks, ed? >> the senate. places like florida, north carolina, ohio. those three senate races are very important. rubio is still ahead in florida, but it's a close race. those are the ones that are important. >> what do you focus on in the next two weeks in terms of getting a better sense of where this race heads, mary? >> you just have to look at trump himself and see if he can stay on message, then you start looking at the polls like the philadelphia suburbs, for instance. some of these house races, mike coffman in denver, barbara come stock in virginia. very quickly, the scenario i outlined is if the dems overtake
the senate and the house, i don't think that's likely, but that 12-point what would be a landslide victory, then the house becomes competitive if that poll is where we're going. >> the stock sold off a couple weeks ago on that speculation. we're going to take a short break and i'm going to ask my panel what they're going to watch in the week ahead. back in a moment.
>> the big polls this week, they can't be the 12-point gap. they have to be much closer than that to encourage the trump people to turn out. >> so you want to watch the polls, obviously. >> me, too, to see if he can get at least 40%. you could nominate a cardboard box and get 40%. >> the battle in mosul, the american servicemen were killed
this week. we have thousands of troops on the ground. how is that battle going to go? what is isis going to do? >> we just showed his picture. our condolences to his family and freiends. that will do it for today. i'll see you at 6:00 p.m. "media buzz" begins right now. the media salvaged donald trump over one response in the debate, sparking an outcry whether he'll accept hillary clinton if she wins. >> the media is so corrupt and the pile-on is so amazing. i will tell you at the time. i will keep you in suspense. >> one of the most stunning things i've ever heard in a presidential debate, ever. >> he basically laid in his own coffin with a hammer and nail and pounded the lid. lights out in american politics when you say something like that. >> he hit himself in the head and knocked himself out. >>